Lupe Talks About The Shining Down Leak ~ LUPEND

Tuesday, June 16, 2009

Lupe Talks About The Shining Down Leak


Lupe left a comment on the Shining Down entry....



what up ya'll...Lupe here...first lemme make a few things very clear.

1. I love the fansite alot i think its dope...i feel flattered that i have so many people interested and in support of my music and the messages that i try to stand for...and not just me but for Hey Champ and the crew and damn near anybody who even resembles me...you gives give them shine and i commend you for that.

2. I DONT LEAK MY OWN RECORDS!!! I'M NOT A FAN OF LEAKING RECORDS OR OF DOWNLOADING!!! My entire first album leaked and possibly cost me from going platinum my first time out as the final estimates of how many people actually downloaded that album illegally was well over half a million. So how do u think i feel that everytime i come to this site where my "fans" are i see you putting up links to download my records???...I dont care about the other sites. I care about where my real fans are supposed to be active. If you come across it and you like it and keep it to yourself thats all cool with me but to make it where as other people are able to download it in a public forum is honestly an insult to me. Especially because of how much i love you guys. that shit is kinda like a slap in the face.

3. FAKE SHORE DRIVES "UNRELEASED" RECORDS COME FROM MY OLD PRODUCERS WHO HAVE MY OLD HARD DRIVES. I DONT AGREE WITH THAT SHIT OR CO-SIGN IT AT ALL ITS THE REASON I STOPPED DOING MIXTAPES AND I TOLD ANDREW THIS WHEN WE MET IN CHICAGO AT THE COCA-COLA TOUR SHOW AND HE THOUGHT I WAS GONNA BE ALL PISSED BUT IT WAS ALL LOVE AND I TOLD HIM I KNOW WHERE HE'S GETTING THOSE RECORDS FROM AND HE AINT GOT WORRY ABOUT ME HE GOTTA WORRY ABOUT ATLANTIC OR ARISTA OR THE PUBLISHERS OF THOSE VERY "UNCLEARED AND UNCLEARABLE" SAMPLES.

Everytime i get the urge to do something new for my fans I go online and see "new unreleased lupe" from 6 years ago and i shrug and just say fuck it. Things like that fuck up the real plans and the mood. You dont just throw out bunch of records for the sake of having a bunch of records out. I dont operate like that as an artist. Some records aren't even meant to come out.

4. When we were talking about who should have first rights to new shit when we do officially "leak" something the only two sites that came up was LupEnd Blog and Nahright. Thats big whether you know that or not. You have a direct relationship with the artist you rock with who puts your name in the hat for everything that involves him online.

5. Someone hacked my email. I was about to fire my entire staff and cut off relationships over shining down leaking last night. Bun B hit me and was like "the records dope" and i was like "what record?" nobody even has it. the only possible explanation is my email chain with the mix studio (which is air tight...the studio that is) was hacked and thats where the record came from.

Lastly, the album is fucking ridiculous. I dont like to brag or shit like that but the album is sooooo fucking crazy at this point 95% done. and its all balls to the wall fire. I have the experience and the freedom now to make what i think will be the best received album of my career.

Lupe in the club??? Blasphemy!!!!

We're Not Losers...
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-alright...y'all probably know what that means...no more leaked tracks on here. I also never wanted to insult anyone...I just didn't know better...so...I'm sorry for that...won't happen again.

And Lupe...I really appreciate that you took the time to clear things up and also that you considered to give us the first rights to your new material. That really means a lot to us.

77 comments:

  1. Sorry, Lu. We can get a little over-zealous at times. I'll buy 2 copies of the single when it officially drops.
    Song is fantastic, though!

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  2. our b lupe
    we musta just gotten so hyped for the album we lost sight of what we were doing was wrong
    i believe you when you say the album is ognna be fire, and ill purchase it as soon as it comes out

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  3. yep-wont be posting this on www.LiveLyricism.tk --promise.lol

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  4. thats all i was trying to say :( i wasn't trying to come down at anyone at all...

    Kay

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  5. Fuck Platinum! It's gonna go Quadruple Uranium! I hope...

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  6. Damn lu...I know it sucks dat you didnt want this shit leaked but ill def be coping every single to MAKE SURE dat shit is #1 on iTunes xD and DEFINENETLY coping a cd for all my friends and family members I WILL SPREAD THE LASERS SEED!

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  7. i heard the CDQ leak, simply amazing, i got chills down my back just listening to it. and i will also be buying the single when it is on itunes and every time i owe someone a birthday present or favor or anything, they will be getting a store bought copy of lasers thats for sure. i have always went out and purchased the album of any artist that i truly respect, and lupe is #1 on that list till the death of it!

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  8. GJ clearing things up and showing the fans that you care. Cant wait for Shining Down to actually drop so I can buy it.

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  9. I hear lupe, but ima be real....to lupe...I know you got hella talent, youre #1 on my list iight? I'm sorry about the leak...but one thing I know a lot of people don't like is the estimated dates...I mean...give us an outlook, or position of the tracks progress..but please man please..if u feel that the time period or date isn't going to come through then just keep working...make it dope like we know you will..cuz trust me man, months of speculation and false dates is sorta >:-\...like you posting the pics, and the streams...that's wassup..that let's us know ur cookin...keep makin product..I'm a laser

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  10. Sorry, Kay...
    We'll all put this behind us.

    Love for Lupe & the FNF Crew.

    FNF ^

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  11. Lupe the song is amazing please drop the album soon
    even of it leaked today i'd buy it the day it came out
    i even went to itunes to see if i could buy shining down as soon as i saw it was on the net

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  12. aww oh wow. I co sign what bwinnzle said. . I can see where lupes coming from, I'm also happy he came to justify this whole thing.

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  13. Hey, I see exactly where your coming from & that shit with your 1st album was SUPER f'd up! However, when I look at it from my point of view as a blogger. Once that song leaked, its everywhere.

    If I didn't put it up, I am only harming my hits. And I'm new in the game barely 6 months in and I don't get a lot of email from w/exclusive tracks or material to post. I'm looking and creating post for my self.

    At the end of the day, I am truly a fan of your music & I wouldn't do anything I felt harmed your artist.

    I feel Ringtone rappers should be worried about mp3's leaking because after that initial single they done. But your an album artist! You music is way more than just a single, so in my mind I am not hurting you, but helping to create a buzz for the upcoming project.

    I feel an artist kinda has to embrace or at least let go, when a song is leaked because they can't get it back.

    The only thing they can do is stop the next leak from happening in the first place.

    With this said, if you want me to remove the link from my site, I will do so gladly.

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  14. , im sad when lupe's sad :(

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  15. ^ dude just remove it....you,we don't know anything about what it's like to be in the music industry.

    if the artist doesn't want his shit up then u don't put it up.
    let's keep it a 100.

    as for the confirmed dates thing...nah,surprises are better.u can't say that it didn't feel good to wake up this morning and find shining down unexpectedly,even tho it was a leak.

    let's keep it tight for our number 1 man and his crew!!

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  16. lupes in denail if he thinks every1 who d/l'd that first album was gonna buy it lol and 2nd of all embrace the leaks kus with out leaks ur career would be forgotten so easily

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  17. Just posted what lupe said on the LiveLyricism blog- i encourage the same to other authors...

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  18. >> And Lupe...I really appreciate that you took the time to clear things up and also that you considered to give us the first rights to your new material. That really means a lot to us.

    you have to share Sean!!

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  19. When I first saw that this blog posted 'Shining Down' and gave a bull shit reason behind it...I was surprised! I knew right from there that yah were feeling yourselves way too much! I did not know any major artist that has officially gicen props to a fan blog like Lupe! Posting that leak was more than a slap in the face! The fact that Lupe addressed yah they way he did truly proves to me how real and humble dude he is! Yah have no idea what you just did!! Lupe right now probably lookin at yah with true skeptism and might question he supposedly "real fans"....Its this type of shit that make artists want to retire...You might have gave him another reason to leave the game sooner. It's like getting robbed by your own family. I am just so disgisted! I mean if I was him and 'We are Lasers' turn into a F&L situation...than I will leave without any notice! If you are ready this Lu, just know that their are fans that are just as pissed as you! And that you dont have to worry about us boot-leggin your shit! The last concert I saw was a Lupe Fiasco show and it blowed my mind so much that me and my friend felt that the show should have cost more (it was only 20 bucks). BTW, clearly, this the best Lupe blog ever! Hopefully this outrage will humble yah a bit because this shit right here is not cute! Your not suppose to fuck up the business of the artist you care about! Business 101
    ~LupEND

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  20. understandable but real talk is when u barely have any shit comin out what do u think fans are gonna do when something finally hits the street

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  21. leaking someone else's music is just disrespectful. and lupe has a point about the F&L sales.

    but honestly, listening to this track today just made me feel so good. i dont know quite how to feel. i love the track.

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  22. This blog was just feelin yah selves way to much! Pride is a sin! To honestly think Lupe would leak his own shit is beyond stupid! I mean we all now what happen to F&L. It didnt even go Gold because of shit like this*smh*. Sade said it best, "love is stronger than pride". Poor Lupe! This man can even take a mini break without bullshit comeing into the mix.

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  23. I'm surprised Lupe was so pissed about the single leaking. I mean..it's just the SINGLE and it's fucking fire. Go to hiphopdx.com right now and that shit hasn't received ONE rating below 5 stars.

    I mean it's not like it's incomplete or anything. I understand where he's coming from...but I gotta admit, I'm glad I got to listen to the single...we were starving Lupe :) lol

    buying the album day one. just give us a release date!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  24. Lupe needs to chill. Ill download his album (maybe), I doint care really. Most people could care less about Lu8pend.

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  25. Single was weak, he fell off. Nicca sounds like he feelin himself. Humble urself nicca, ur nothing really.

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  26. Droolin.

    First homie you don't know what I know about. I've worked for Interscope, Def Jam...the whole Universal fam, I'm not new to this.

    I'm not on here tryin to spam my site, Lu can see my site & if he hit me like take it down I will, but get off his nuts

    "let's keep it tight for our number 1 man and his crew"

    I'm cool with people in Lu's crew, I'm from Chicago, Bishop G his brother Cha Chi ect....so why don't you address Lu instead of addressing me.

    J. Manning
    Superintendent
    School Of ILL

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  27. Damn just be fucking happy that people wanna download that shit the moment it's available.
    If it hadn't been on nahright I wouldn't have even checked for it but i did and it's cool - but fuck outta here acting like God and shit!
    Plus, I downloaded the 1st joint but would have never bought it - so dude is trippin if they think 1 download = 1 sale. Just be roud that people are checking for your music - fuck the sales for once.

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  28. That's his money man. It is about the music but if it's your job you have to make sure he's getting paid to do his thing. It's support man. I've downloaded things from torrents but I've always gone out and bought Lu's albums. He's that dope.

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  29. I understand where you guys are coming from with the whole leaking and illegal downloading and what not but if it wasn't for lupe's first album being leaked I wouldn't have even been a fan of lupe. I wouldn't have bought food and liquor just off the singles. I like to listen to a whole project to know if the artist is worth the purchases. I purchased The Cool without even looking for the leak b/c I've respected his work and I KNOW he's gonna always bring the quality. The shining down track leaking could possibly bring more potential buyers or not. I don't think an unfinished leaked track or any leaked material will be any great harm at all to sales. If someone is going to illegally download they're gonna keep on doing it despite you're approval of it. Others out there who I think are very much like my mindset look to hear more from an artist we're not too keen on by downloading a body of work first before we decide if we want to buy into the artist. and live streams aren't even good enough because i don't even have time to listen to that stuff at home most of the time. I do most of my music listening in the car or on school campus. just chill out

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  30. ONE MORE THING

    I really wanted people to know...THE SONG IS DOPE!!! HAHAHA

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  31. i understand artists get bummed out when tracks get leaked like that, but some of that post makes u soun dlike a grumpy old man. You cant fight the future homey - people are going to illegally download shit until it becomes legal. Just bc you had a "half a million downloads" doesnt mean each of those would have been sales. for the most part if people are real fans they will support you anyway. people who dont are just casual listeners or people just checking something out to see if its worth buying. If the product is that hot people will be converted. Look at all the free music Weezy gave out before the carter 3. it only made him bigger - so there is a way to use it to your advantage. You will never be able to stop it so why not figure out how to harness it? Instead of getting all pissy and making ur fans feel like bad stepchildren. maybe thats why you didnt go plat.

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  32. fuck all of y'all because this song is trash. charles hamilton's barbara walters is better than this.


    .p.s. so really fuck all y'all. some CH HATERS.

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  33. no one said nonthing about ch you are nonthing but a troll

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  34. lupe real talk man im still spreading the lasers manifesto and people are loving it man saying its on some real stuff man
    I will be buying that album the day it drops!

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  35. ^^

    WHO THE FUCK IS YOU NIGGA. YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A TROLL YOU WHAT YOUR JUST A GAY ASS NIGGA.

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  37. ^^

    i wonder what this comment said.

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  38. i'm normally always in agreement with Lu, but i have a couple of bones to pick with him over this post....

    1) if i buy his albums, i own them, and if i feel i wanna hook my friends up with a copy of it or something of that nature i feel my purchase entitles me to do that....what's the point of music if it isn't being shared anyway...hopefully it makes fans out of them and they go cop the album themselves...it's happened with a couple of my friends before...

    2) As for the old unreleased tracks getting released...i don't want him to take it as an insult...i would hope he takes it as a compliment that there are so many people out here fiending for material from him so bad that they have to dig up tracks from like 6 years ago.....i for one can't get enough of that unreleased "fire" (pun intended)

    also i feel awful the track leaked prematurely like this (despite the fact its a SICCCKKKK RECORD)...
    as an artist myself, i know what it's like when people hear and judge unfinished material before you are totally satisfied with it...

    i'm definitely gonna hold off on letting people hear it until the official version is out...

    WE ARE LASERS!!!

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  39. ^^

    lupe sucks lil wayne is betetr than him.

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  40. FNF UP!

    I'll be buying the single(s) & album, without a doubt!!!!!

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  41. no you won't becasue they suck. FnF down.

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  42. Hearing Shining Down today makes me want to go out and buy the album even more than I did before - if that's possible. FNF UUUUUUPPPPPPP.

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  43. Aww! *sniff* It's really cool that he actually came on here and gave his opinion-- a lot of artists would just ignore it...

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  44. ^^
    FnF down lupe suck dick. it all young money.

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  45. AIDENNE KAYNE WHAT IS REALLY COOL? LUPE

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  46. I guess I'm new to this site for official new Lupe then since nobody else will get it 1st lol. Shining Down is amazing but I hate that someone hacked the email account. I started to think that when I couldn't find a source if Lupe said it was coming out then I thought people was just bullshitting until it leaked then found out about the email hacking. Hopefully Atlantic will LET Lupe do what he needs. Also I hope Lasers doesn't end up like F&L. I was shocked with how great the album was and the success it had. Shoulda went platinum. The cool should be platinum too. Another great album. Maybe 3rd time's the charm with Lasers if everything goes right.

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  47. yo lupe, stop being such a baby nigga. you needa stop jumpin on your core fans who just want to hear some good music and jump on your fuckin staff. them is the niggas who leaked the shit. and you're pissed at your fans for listening to it? fuck outta here nigga. you one of my favorite rappers but you lost a lot of respect from me with this post. won't be buying you new cd like i did the last two, nigga.

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  48. @ EarLy

    Lupe isn't mad at his fans. He said he's mad that it leaked like it did in the quality it was and that he doesn't care if we each had it for our personal use for those who have downloaded it like myself but doesn't want us spreading it by putting it up for download anywhere and it also makes more work for the labels anyway to remove it from myspace, youtube, imeem, rapidshare, megaupload, zshare, usershare, mediafire, etc...when it's everywhere so he asked nicely for us not to spread the unfinished version. That's how F&L didn't have the success it should have had. People wanted it so bad that it leaked then half of it had to be redone. The Cool wasn't fully recorded and mastered until a few weeks before the official release. He wants Lasers to be already finished due to LupEND getting postponed then The Great American Rap Album was cancelled and now Lasers. Lasers was supposed to come out this month but it's not and another album was coming in december but doesn't look so either. Plus he's mad over the leaking of his unreleased stuff from people who have his hard drives.

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  49. One thing ive learned from lupe is to look beyond the surface .
    The leak could boost sales , hes got the sympathy vote now.
    Everyone of his fans will make sure to buy the album/singles as many times as they can ,including me :D

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  50. "lupe in the club?? Blasphemy!!!" lmfaoooooooo

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  51. Lupe, please don't stop what you're doin' bro you're prob the most lyrically wise artist i know so keep doin what ya doin and fo sho imma buy lupEND hopefully it aint the end just the start of a new begining

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  52. lupe, people are always gonna download your music, because they wont buy your cd. if someone didnt upload your albums some people would have never heard of lupe But i still bought your albums...and downloaded a couple times cause i lost your album, and gotta new laptop. Just keep makin hot tracks, we'll support you. better not retire because of this!!!i'll feel too guilty..please please please dont sue/arrest me

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  53. Lupe's my favorite rapper too. "Hip Hop Saved My Life" made me cry real talk.

    Anyway good site.

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  54. Lu i feel bad that your pissed at the leak and even though i downloaded it i'm gonna buy the official one anyway. and also, i'm buying the album the day it comes out which is saying alot. I've only actually bought 3 albums in hard actual cd form. both yours and Tha Carter III.
    WE ARE LASERS!!!

    ps- lu can you PLEASE put up at least a preliminary release date, your killin me with not knowing lol

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  55. lupe needs 2 collab with wale,andre 3000,black thought,k'naan,drake,mos def,nas,blu,k-os& talib kweli b4 he retires

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  56. I downloaded the song. Truth is, I couldn't wait anymore. I downloaded both your old CD's too, however, that didn't stop me from buying two copies of each when they were released. When Shining Down is released on Itunes I will be 100% buying it. Song is amazing man. You are the best rapper alive.

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  57. Lupe, can't wait for the new album, i bought F&L and The Cool, and since The Cool I've been dying to hear the new one, all the songs (by my opinion) on your first two albums are just amazing, and i'm sure this new album wont dissappoint!

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  58. Point blank: The game NEEDS Lu.
    I've been starving for a track from Lu for too long now, this leak wasn't a slap in the face... it was a big, juicy lyrical slice of pizza for those of us hungry for real music. Lu needs to realize this. Because he's the GREATEST in the game right now. He understands. Young money? Nahhh, FNF is GROWN money, GET OUT OF HERE.

    DROP THE ALBUM ALREADY! Like I said, the leak gave me a slice, but I want the whole fucking pizza. Lu deserves the best....

    - Lu's #1 fan

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  59. fuck this Lupe,
    i bought The Cool after i downloaded half the tracks from forums

    i was going to buy two copies of lasers or whatever the fuck this album is called but now I'm going to download the fuck out of it

    don't get me wrong, you're one of the realest niggas in hiphop right now but shit like this?

    "i could have gone platinum" fuck you, you're doing this for the money, not for the love of hiphop

    you could learn something from the moon man

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  60. to the fuck head before me with the disrespectful ass comment about lu only being in it for the money... try shutting the fuck up much? lupe deserves every damn album sale he's ever got and should have got if his shit would stop getting leaked. go and download it when it comes out, i hope you get a computer virus and your hard drive explodes on your bitch ass. FNF UP!!

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  61. "Everytime i get the urge to do something new for my fans I go online and see "new unreleased lupe" from 6 years ago and i shrug and just say fuck it."
    A. The fans didn't put it up, YOU trusted the wrong people. Why punish the people who support you? Relapse leaked and sold mega-numbers, so Lupe's reasoning on this is rather specious.
    B. I bought your albums and would pay for the unreleased stuff if that was an option, but seeing as the samples will never be cleared why not give us a free taste?
    C. Cosign antmoney.

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  62. Lupe that was a reallllllll gay thing 2 do man. That tells me that ur all about the money. I dont like u as a person but, ur songs are #1



    p.s nice good making fun of lil wayne

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  63. My bad Lu. the song is great tho and i will be copping at least to copies of lasers.....i love you. keep shinin down........

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  64. To the dumbfuckk who posted above chelle
    Eat a fucken dick!!
    I'm a big fan of both weezy &lupe and no ones selling out here, in the end its all about distributiion and gettin your message over, but some fuckheads just don't respect that people have goals in life. I understand your dissapointed lu but understand that you don't need the frame as evidence that your the greatest, jus look to the stands :)
    Ipurchased both F&L and theCool on the days of their release. Ahuge fan and admire your work to the core (srry to sound like a groupie but your pretty dope). May God stay blessing you and your family.

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  65. You're not a fan of downloading, but I always buy your stuff when it comes out in stores. I can't say that for most of the artists I listen to, but real hip hop is worth money to me.

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  66. I like lupe as much as any of you, but I hope that you'll take your blinders off long enough to see how much hypocrisy is in his post. He goes against some of his main "points" (if you can call them that) on his "LASERS manifesto." isn't going platinum a status symbol? does he not drive nice cars/have a nice house? his grammar is awful, but I guess that can be excused since he's a product of the "universal education system." substance in the place of popularity? he doesn't want to be popular? he doesn't want a platinum record? he doesn't want his normally deep songs to be heard by as many people as possible?

    I love the single, but the wearenotlosers.com site was a complete tool move on his part because of how empty and hypocritical those points are. "I want world peace and an end to world hunger!" that's my manifesto, should I make a website? LAME. just shut up and continue putting out good music.

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  67. I bought two The Cool CD's because of what happened with F&L, looks like I'm buying three LASERS CD's.

    BTW: You killed it at Summerfest, but you should've done Failure, Put You On Game, Gotta Eat, Pressure, Trails and Tribulations, freestyled or SOMETHING.

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  68. I don't understand why some people are making it seem like Lupe's a bad person for wanting to go platinum. Yah he's got the opportunity to make amazing music for us fans and has the talent to do so, and most of us would be happy with just that. However, that doesn't mean he hasn't any career goals he wants to achieve. Are we to assume that pro athletes should just be happy with the fact that they get to play the sport they love as a career? Hell no, they want to win that trophy or that cup too dammit! So why is Lu the bad guy for wanting to go platinum, one of the greatest achievements a musical artist can get? It's not like he doesn't deserve it. I say keep doing your thing Lu, and fuck what the haters want to say about you. FNF UP!!

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  69. Im in Awe!!! to think that someone as an artist such as lupe to keep it one hunit with you guys and apologize to you for your f**k up,takes a lot of cojones to know someone as humble as that it almost gives you a responsiblity,not only to buy his record when it officially drops but to actually listen and teach the LOSERS of our society message that Lupe is fortelling us. For the track stealing none tru fans of lupe in his lyrics(teachings) he lays out the blueprint on how to be more socially consious of your surroundings and to love your brother and DONT STEAL!!!!!How can we ever become unified as a collective while were still focused on the the selfish individual (SELF!!!) We are L.A.S.E.R.S

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  70. check this lupe...i know how your pissed bout this leak..but as it stands, you are the best underated underground/mainstream rapper on the face of this planet, you stand for a real cause and i know what your on ;) the cool was 100percent geniuss i clocked on to the storyboard and the metaphors to what it really relates to...stil look how much publicity your getin on here you know how theyre tryna make internet the next best thng and the rest of the ins and outs,,,you should concentrate on reachin more people because thats what your doin, and the reason ur not out der is cah its a snide to silence you, times are here so just carry on reachin the people and wakin em up. if it means owt, we all know your the best on earth to bless a tune, propoganda tv aint your real agenda, you know that aswel as i do as well as everybody else does, dont they you have to win an award to make somethin official because thats jus a made up word, wer ready to win this game of truth and lies, cah were not losers WERE LASERS. strip down your hologram-1- peace out lupe, keep reachin no mata wot, you make up your own future

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  71. Lupe you are undoubtedly my most favorite hip hop artist. You always deliver quality music with a consistent potent message, that oozes with originality. Nonetheless king, without fans you're just another starving artist trying to figure out why Hip Hop hasn't come to the rescue yet. Yeah, the site fucked up and yeah you're disappointed but I don't feel as that gave you an excuse to address the situation the way you did. Did you speak with them in private before you put dudes on blast like that? Lupe, I love you man but to me "that shit is kinda like a slap in the face." MORE LIFE.

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  72. "fuck this Lupe,
    i bought The Cool after i downloaded half the tracks from forums

    i was going to buy two copies of lasers or whatever the fuck this album is called but now I'm going to download the fuck out of it

    don't get me wrong, you're one of the realest niggas in hiphop right now but shit like this?

    "i could have gone platinum" fuck you, you're doing this for the money, not for the love of hiphop

    you could learn something from the moon man" i agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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